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当了回愤青——求同存异真的不容易
禾邊女鬼 发表于 2007-03-11 01:02:30
无意中在YouTube上看到一个《中韩历史问题》的视频,是日本的电视台的节目。一看跟帖评论就有点不顺眼,免不了中韩网友在对骂。终于看到一个装13取个日本ID的“kato071”的人喷粪比较离谱,忍不住当了回愤青,妄图用蹩脚英语给丫上堂历史课。几个回合下来,深感一个人的认知和世界观定了,真的很难再跟另一个观点形成过程不同的人达成什么共识——尤其是这种共识需要在国家或个人尊严上作出妥协的时候——更糟的是,双方都是死要面子的东亚人。
下面是那个人跟本鬼的所有对话,至今他未有回应本鬼的回复:
kato071(他是回应前面一哥们谈论朝鲜没有自己的文化和历史、被中国和日本同时看不起的言论):In a sense of what? Even a loser can say that look down on others when he speaks alone that's what many Japanese and chinks do. But who would be considered the subhumans infestation scum of the Earth? 【有何意义?即使是个失败者,他也可以独自嚷嚷说看不起谁谁——那就是日本人和中国佬(此人果然哈日,我们以为他们最恨的日本人也没用蔑称)干的事。但是现在在地球上谁被看作是劣等人渣呢?(汗,的确中国人普遍地位是低一些)】
本鬼:Poor ignorant Koreans... your ancestors are Shinra, Koguryes were your enemies but you regard them as your heroes... How rediculous you are! You cannot deny your thousand-year-history of China's dependency!This is written in Great British Museum, and even Japanese call you "half of 10,000 years dependency", I do agree with Japanese this time! You attempt to steal ancient cultural and scientific fruits from China, you are really disgusting! 【可怜的无知韩国人...你们的祖先是新罗,高句丽是你们祖先的仇敌,而你们现在却把他们当作你们的英雄,多么荒谬!你们无法否认千年来作为中国附庸的历史!这也是在大英博物馆明文写上的;而日本人也叫你们“半万年属国”,我这次非常同意日本人的说法!你们企图窃取中国的古代文化科技成果,你们才真正令人恶心!】
kato071:Disgusting your race. Your claim is disgusting, get away from my country with your infestation. You disgusting chink. You like to distort and ignore facts don't you? Explain why Korea is called Korea. 【为你的民族感到呕心。你这说法很讨厌,你这些恶心的中国佬从我的国家滚出去!你想歪曲历史和否认事实?那你解释一下为什么我们会叫做“高丽”。】
本鬼:Aha, you know nothing about your humble history and you also know nothing but reviling. Yes you are called Korea now, but it's pity that Wang Geon's Goreyo has no any connection with Goguryeo. And do you know why your country were called Joseon? Because Lee Seong-gye asked Emperor of Ming to decide it~
Before 1895, Korea was China's servant; 1895-1945, Korea was Japan's slave; After 1945, Korea is USA's flunky. 【啊哈,你对你们的屈辱历史一无所知?你除了谩骂之外啥也不会。是的,你们现在被称作高丽,但遗憾的是王建的高丽跟高句丽没有任何联系。那么你知道为什么你的国家叫“朝鲜”?这是因为你们的开国太祖李成桂请求明朝的皇帝来决定你们的国号~在1895年以前,朝鲜是中国的仆从;1895~1945年,韩国是日本的奴隶;1945年以后,韩国是美国的走狗。】
kato071:Yes, I try the proud of my history as much as I can. But there's NO pride in Chinese history because they lost every time they went to war against Korea, the only time was only with an Alliance with a Korean kingdom. Could your kingdom dominate Koguryo? No, there was its successor that lasted 228 years. Lol, how can you claim Koguryo when Wangun who founded Koryo said I don't remember well but he said kinda "They filled Pyongyang with thorns and thistles, and I shall avenge them"? That means you have nothing to it. I repeat, your claims are disgusting. Infestation 【对,我全身心地为我们的历史自豪。但中国的历史不值得有任何骄傲,因为他们每次跟朝鲜交战都输掉了,唯一的一次胜利还是跟朝鲜王国联盟的。你们有统治高句丽吗?没有,它的继承者又持续了228年的统治。好好笑,建立高丽王朝的王建说“他们使平壤荆棘满布,我必将向他们复仇”,你居然在说高句丽?说明你根本不了解(很明显此人没有明白我说王建的高句丽跟高丽没关系是什么意思)。我重复一遍,你的言论非常恶心。】
本鬼:ai... i will never reply to you any longer as you have no sense about logic and history... but i sincerely hope you can think about some questions:
1. if we lost every time, or korea was really so strong, why korea was dependency of China for hundereds of years? Why Japanese could capture the whole korea from Pusan to Amnok River within few weeks and your king could do nothing but escape and beg for Ming's relief troops? Don't talk with me about Yi Sun-Shin, I know he was a great general but if there was no Ming's troops, Yi was only pirates to Japanese and they would not leave your peninsula.
2. Don't you think you Korean's logic is innocent and rediculous that claiming Manchuria belongs to you according to Koguryo history? If so, how can't we claim the North Korea belongs to China according to history of "4 counties of Han Dynasty"?
Think about it, korean, your history is really what is distorted. I know and acknowledge failures of Sino-Korea wars, but can you bravely face your failures, coward? 【哎……我不会再跟你纠缠了,因为你根本没有逻辑和历史的感知可言……不过我真诚希望你可以思考一下几个问题:
1、如果我们真的“每次都战败”了,或者朝鲜真如你说得那么强大,为什么朝鲜几百年来一直在做中国的附属国?为什么日本人可以几个星期就可以从釜山打到鸭绿江,而你们的国王除了逃跑和乞求明朝出兵援救,什么也做不了?别跟我提什么李舜臣,我知道他是个伟大的将军,但如果没有明朝的援军,李舜臣对日本人来说不过是个海盗,他们不会因此而离开你的朝鲜半岛。
2、你不觉得韩国根据高句丽历史来宣称满洲属于他们的逻辑很幼稚和荒谬吗?如果这样的话,为什么中国就不可以根据“汉四郡”的历史来宣布北朝鲜是中国的领土?其实韩国宣称的历史才是真正被歪曲的。我知道而且敢于承认中国在跟朝鲜的战争中的失败,但你有勇气直面你们曾经的失败吗,懦夫?】(还是不够狠,应该告诉他志愿军当年就是专门盯着韩国伪军先打的,当年占领过汉城的,嘿嘿)
网址是:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg0CsniUKdA#RtpoXMxnDGE

